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    How to help those who don't "get it"

    Although I grew up with Disney and have been to WDW numerous times, my fiance has not been so fortunate. She has been to WDW twice but these were day trips and were with people who were "first timers."

    As a result of my past trips and because I have listened to the show, I obviously know my way around and have a lot of trivia/secrets up my sleeve. I want to make sure she gets it. What can I do to ensure this?

    By listening to the show, I've learned that a common suggestion would be to catch a showing of Wishes or Illuminations. The problem is.... We live in Louisville, KY and have arguably the largest fireworks show in the country every year for the Kentucky Derby Festival (we are talking fireworks for 45 minutes straight). As a result, fireworks don't do much for us anymore. With that exception, do you have any sugestions on how to gain her approval? Your help would be greatly appreciated!

    By the way, we are going July 11-19 of this year (Didn't know if anything special would be going on?) Your suggestion does not have to include this, but she does like the Cheshire Cat.

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    Re: How to help those who don't "get it"

    If you are looking for a nice evening, I would try the Fantasmic dining package. Make a reservation at the Brown Derby followed by guaranteed admission to Fantasmic - the best of Disney's "shows."

    I know fireworks may not be interesting to you, but they openned up the Magic Fireworks Voyage to non-magical gathering guests. We did this a few years ago with a gathering. It started with some really great desserts at the contemporary with Captain Hook and Mr. Smee. They then escorted us onto boats captained by very entertaining pirates, who tested us on trivia and played some very funny games on the Seven Seas Lagoon. Then, when Wishes started, we watched the show from the boat, while the music was piped into the boat's speakers. The cruise ended with Peter Pan waiting for us at the doc. We even received an exclusive pin to commemorate the evening. Everyone enjoyed it, especially the adults since the pirates were so humorous! That was as Disney as it gets!

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    Re: How to help those who don't "get it"

    YAY!

    Another Louisvillian!

    I'm glad to finally hear of someone that lives in the same city as I that is as obsessed with Disney as I.

    Considering I rarely watch Thunder Over Louisville, the fireworks are still impressive to me. Since I've never gone down to the waterfront, watching on TV bores me quickly.

    But on subject, I think you're smart to point out all the little touches and details, so that you fiance can see that this ain't no kiddie amusement park. Buying the Hidden Mickey book [[[hiddenmickeysguide.com]]] can make a vacation seem like a scavenger hunt.

    You could also show her some amazing shops at the World, if she likes to shop. You could get Cirque de Solei [[[sp?]]] tickets. You could take her to some fine restaurants.

    But above all, just show her what magic Disney holds for people of every age. I hope you'll be able to show her why we're all so obsessed with it.
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    Re: How to help those who don't "get it"

    Try dinner at World Showcase followed by Illuminations. After Illuminations, head out International Gateway and get an ice cream at Beaches and Creme, then take a stroll around the Boardwalk.

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    Re: How to help those who don't "get it"

    From what I have found with taking Disney "virgins" is that for the first 2-3 times they will only notice the big things. The rides, the castle, shows, things like that... You can point out all the things you want, but they won't truely appreciate any of it until their second or third time.... Just in my experiences
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    Re: How to help those who don't "get it"

    Okay, I do have several suggestions. I am going with a first timer for a week starting this Sunday. Here are my thoughts:
    1. Definitely gauge her interest in rides- does she like thrill rides, maybe she doesn't- then make sure to hit the rides you think she would like most. There's nothing like a healthy dose of competition on Buzz Lightyear or Toy Story Mania.
    2. I do not think facts and details should be overlooked, but maybe try not to overwhelm. For instance, be sure after riding Haunted Mansion to point out the story line. A lot of people miss that. On future trips you can get into the more nerdy details we all love.
    3. Stress things that are not rides. A lot of people have the impression that WDW is just about rides. Make sure you go to a couple great sit down meals. Also, you could try going out some night- Raglan Road, Jelly Rolls, Atlantic Dance.
    4. While you are down there Epcot has their annual summer concert series. An ABBA tribute band is features while you will be down there. If she likes ABBA (or the movie Mamma Mia), then you could definitely go see this concert. (And throw in a meal at one of the World Showcase pavilions.)
    --Sorry for the long response but I thought I'd add my two cents since this is what I have been going through in planning. Allears.net has a great calendar of events and closure updates.

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    Re: How to help those who don't "get it"

    Without knowing her exact likes and dislikes, I would recommend some guiding principles.

    First, most people who think they don't like DW are usually focused on the kid aspect, the crowds and the price. Helping her see these through different eyes helps. For example, going with a child or just getting her to join you in acting like a child might be the way to get over the "Disney World is only for kids," way of thinking. Deliberately go on some kid rides and whoop it up. To help relieve any crowd anxiety, make it a game to find the most unusual Disney-goer of the day. Then review the list at lunch and dinner. For the cost aspect, down play the long lines, use fast pass, and point out that there is no other place in the world that offers so much varied entertainment in one place. It's really a bargain all things considered.

    Second, draw her in to the wider Disney story of Walt's dreams and the amazing work of the Imagineers. Most non-Disneyphiles are unaware of the history.

    Third, show her the wide variety of experiences. Where else can you ride one of the best dark rides ever created and then go to a five-star restaurant?

    Finally, her memories of DW will mostly be affected by you, not the parks. So make sure you treat her incredibly well, pay attention to her every word and need, and she'll want to come back.
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    Re: How to help those who don't "get it"

    I know this may seem like really weird advice but make sure you try your best to not hype it up. Because you are not quite sure how they will react to Disney important that they create their opinion of the parks. It could affect there thought of the park if you say something is absolutely amazing (as most things in Disney are) but they only think its okay then all of a sudden they have to assume that you were over praising everything and now their opinion of everything is negatively biased.Let them make their own preferences.
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    Re: How to help those who don't "get it"

    I agree with the above poster - don't hype it too much. In fact, tell her that you're not sure she'll like it as much as you do. Be honest about your misgivings.

    My main suggestion to you is to ask her to make some decisions, about where to stay, where to eat, what to ride, what to do in the evenings, etc., by giving her a choice of three to four things you've narrowed down for her.

    You can introduce her to these things by marking them in the Unofficial Guide and having her read them, or look online at a site like allearsnet.com that also has a lot of photographs.

    If she feels in control a bit, she'll have more fun.

    I got obsessed with WDW by reading the Unoffical Guide cover to cover, when I was planning a trip back in 1998. I had no idea there was so much there! Maybe you'll have the same luck with her if you can get her interested in planning.
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    Re: How to help those who don't "get it"

    Over the weekend, I learned that my fiance really likes sushi. On my last trip with the family, we ate at Kona Cafe and noticed the new sushi bar. This was a start, but I decided to do a little more research. I learned that sushi is available in the Japan pavillion (obviously) as well as the California Grill in the Contemporary. Has anyone tried these? Is sushi available anywhere else? Thanks in advance.

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    Re: How to help those who don't "get it"

    Quote Originally Posted by SteamboatWilly View Post
    Over the weekend, I learned that my fiance really likes sushi. On my last trip with the family, we ate at Kona Cafe and noticed the new sushi bar. This was a start, but I decided to do a little more research. I learned that sushi is available in the Japan pavillion (obviously) as well as the California Grill in the Contemporary. Has anyone tried these? Is sushi available anywhere else? Thanks in advance.
    California Grill has truly excellent sushi, though it is just a small part of a large fine dining menu. I highly recommend you take her there for dinner! Ask for a table with a view of Bay Lake in the moonlight, or a Magic Kindom/Seven Seas Lagoon water view. I think it's a very romantic restaurant, even though it can be a bit loud. The Bay Lake view tables are in a quieter, seperate room, if that matters to you. There's a great lounge for drinks beforehand, too, and a walkway out onto the roof for a fun view of the Magic Kingdom.

    Another good sushi place is Tokyo Dining in the Japan pavilion at Epcot.

    The final place for excellent (not mediocre or bad -there's some of that around too) sushi is Kimonos in the Swan hotel, adjacent to the Epcot park.
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    Re: How to help those who don't "get it"

    My suggestion would be to take a her on a tour of the monorail hotels. Walk through each of them and let her see the beauty of each. You might even go to one of the docks and rent a SeaRaycer and tool around Seven Seas Lagoon or Bay Lake.
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    Re: How to help those who don't "get it"

    Quote Originally Posted by TestSherpa View Post
    Without knowing her exact likes and dislikes, I would recommend some guiding principles.

    First, most people who think they don't like DW are usually focused on the kid aspect, the crowds and the price. Helping her see these through different eyes helps. For example, going with a child or just getting her to join you in acting like a child might be the way to get over the "Disney World is only for kids," way of thinking. Deliberately go on some kid rides and whoop it up. To help relieve any crowd anxiety, make it a game to find the most unusual Disney-goer of the day. Then review the list at lunch and dinner. For the cost aspect, down play the long lines, use fast pass, and point out that there is no other place in the world that offers so much varied entertainment in one place. It's really a bargain all things considered.



    Second, draw her in to the wider Disney story of Walt's dreams and the amazing work of the Imagineers. Most non-Disneyphiles are unaware of the history.

    Third, show her the wide variety of experiences. Where else can you ride one of the best dark rides ever created and then go to a five-star restaurant?

    Finally, her memories of DW will mostly be affected by you, not the parks. So make sure you treat her incredibly well, pay attention to her every word and need, and she'll want to come back.
    Testsherpa has some excellent ideas.
    Allow me to add a couple,even though a poster or two mentioned not to "hype it up" too much,I'll just add to that and say,even if you don't "hype it up",make sure there is no downplaying about anything Disney either.No negitivity of any degree.For some reason,when we do that,others seem to remember the negitive side,and forget all about all of the positive and great time they are actually having there at WDW.
    One more that came to mind when I read the thread starter's first post,take her to 50's PrimeTime Cafe.at Disney/Hollywood Studios.She will love that,with all of the decor and attitude of the 50's!
    Hope I've helped.
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    Re: How to help those who don't "get it"

    After hearing all of your advice, I think I like the idea of touring the monorail hotels. I stayed in one of the wings of the contemporary once, and have eaten at various restaurants along the loop, but I've never really wandered around. I think we may explore the Poly and the GF with a sushi stop at the Kona island Sushi Bar. I've read several reviews that its sushi is comparable to CG. Is this true? Do I need an ADR if I'm only going to the sushi bar (not eating sushi as an appetizer from Kona Cafe)? Thanks for all your help!

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    Re: How to help those who don't "get it"

    You do not need an ADR to get sushi at the Kona Island Sushi Bar. I can't comment on the sushi, because we've never eaten there.
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