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So you have the classic Disney movies that Walt worked on. There for a while you have films that are easily overlooked. Then, all of a sudden, The Little Mermaid comes out in 1989 and then numerous films after that all made a splash and are memorable. What caused this? I have a few ideas but does anyone else have any ideas? :idea:
Michael Eisner...and Frank Wells...maybe...?
I believe it's more cyclical than anything else. For me there are 4 eras where Disney (and Pixar) really hit their stride. Not saying that every movie was great, but there was not an extended time during these eras where they failed to produce a great or very good film.
Snow White -> Bambi (1938-1942)
Cinderella -> 101 Dalmations (1950 - 1961)
Great Mouse Detective -> Lion King (1986 - 1992)
Toy Story -> likely Brave (so 1995 - present for Pixar) Not saying that I think Bug's Life, Cars, or Cars 2 are all that great but there has been no significant lull in Pixar's output.
I don't believe that the creative talent at Disney suddenly forgot how to put together decent films during the 40's, 70's or 2000's (for Disney animation, anyway). Rather, I think that team success comes about behind the scenes, takes years to develop and can blossom suddenly. And just as suddenly the magic can vanish again. In the 40's, I think it would be safe to say that WWII and the animators strike were the key events in the downturn of high quality output. The seeds were in place for the 80's renaissance of animated films even before the change in management. And while Eisner, Wells, and especially Katzenberger deserve much credit for getting the animation team to really start functioning again at a high level, this team was also instrumental in creating the disfunction that ended up destroying the 2D animation unit.
Your thoughts are duly noted.
But, most folks consider Walt's time as being that of the beginning of the classics, and the Eisner-Wells time being that of the beginning of the new classics.
I was just, purposely, generalizing to be silly, mostly. :)
KK movie.
Why do so many folks not like Cars? Not sure I'd rank it quite as highly as Finding Nemo, or Up, but it'd be close.
I enjoyed Cars more than I expected to. The second one was awful, but they did a great job with the first. Up was great until they got to the dogfight scene with the planes. WFT. Finding Nemo doesn't have the re-watchability factor, for me.
Do you have a son? I'd say that might make the difference. Being a father of an awesome kid makes Finding Nemo that much more special to me.
And, as I've already told you before, I steadfastly refuse to see Cars2. If you can't sell a movie with it's trailer, that's usually a pretty bad sign.
No sons. My nephew is BIG TIME into Cars (thank Uncle Mike for that one). He always loved cars, so one day I showed him the opening sequence of Cars and he threw his hands up in the air after the race. When I tell you he is totally hooked now, it would be an understatement. At 2-1/2, he knows all of their names, even the obscure ones. The toilet training seat he will be testing out for the first time tomorrow... Cars.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mo Noyz
Now, he's also very big into fish. LOVES the aquarium. But he doesn't watch Finding Nemo. No use for it. His cars all have to have eyes at this point, but he refuses to watch his Nemo DVD. He does love Octonauts, though.
I still haven't seen a single Toy Story movie.
I tried getting him to watch but he wasn't interested in those movies yet, either.
i don't know why but i watch a LOT of Laverne and Shirley.:inquis:
I don't even.... :inquis:Quote:
Originally Posted by Mo Noyz
i know it's not 90s but it's old TV not that 90s is old but you get it.Quote:
Originally Posted by StewbotTalborg
If you had read my post you'd realize I was talking to Mo, who said he hadn't seen a single Toy Story movie yet.Quote:
Originally Posted by nicholas