The politics of WDW accolytes

**Mo Noyz** · 10-03-2011, 10:08 PM

I've been listening to another podcast recently, so I visited their website. I noticed they linked to pretty much every other major WD site on the web.

Except this one.

That, combined with the recent flare-up at Laughing Place concerning Lou (which was pretty ridiculous, IMO) has me wondering what kind of politics have crept up in the WD/W/L realm.

Are there hard feelings there? Competition?

Seems sad, yet human at the same time.

Anybody here privy to the political jostling that may, or may not, be within the enthusiast community?

**HauntedGabe** · 10-03-2011, 11:26 PM

You are tap danc'n so lightly...

I have no idea the who's or where's you are speaking of...confused.

**eeyore79** · 10-04-2011, 12:06 AM

ya a lot of the websites/podcasts are pretty ok with the others...

care to share which one it was?

**tiggerguy** · 10-04-2011, 12:26 AM

it's probably a good idea he does NOT name them publicly here in the open

**Deveney** · 10-04-2011, 03:50 AM

If i MAY be so BOLD to say OUTLOUD............
I spent 36 hours in THE BOX this past weekend for THE event.

and EVEN with the choppyness on the BEST parts...... I HONESTLY think that Lou has gotten "TOO Big". If you go back to what his podcasts started OUT as.............and THEN go to today............ I would THINK that Lou has GOTTEN TOOO big....

WHEN did we substitue ACTUAL Disney info and history, into Weddings and things of that nature......

WHEN Lou is IN THE box on the LONG Live broadcasts he's GREAT..... but you get ONE Hour of Lou doing WHAT we fell in love with and then 3 hours of fluff?

Lou has Got to BIG for a purist like me............

But Once again that is JUST ME...............

**Mo Noyz** · 10-04-2011, 06:00 AM

Originally Posted by tiggerguy

it's probably a good idea he does NOT name them publicly here in the open

Brother, you should really try to relax a little. It's actually quite soothing.

But no, I didn't name names for a reason since I didn't know if hard feelings existed. I figured if people knew the details of this soap opera they'd divuldge a little.

Though, stormtrooperguy's quote here at least has me thinking my assumptions are on the right path.

Though, I maybe should have said "podcasters" in the title.

**tiggerguy** · 10-04-2011, 07:22 AM

Originally Posted by Mo Noyz

Brother, you should really try to relax a little. It's actually quite soothing.

But no, I didn't name names for a reason since I didn't know if hard feelings existed. I figured if people knew the details of this soap opera they'd divuldge a little.

Though, stormtrooperguy's quote here at least has me thinking my assumptions are on the right path.

Though, I maybe should have said "podcasters" in the title.

and that was my point, as you said there may be hard feelings.

**StewbotTalborg** · 10-04-2011, 07:38 AM

Originally Posted by Deveney

If i MAY be so BOLD to say OUTLOUD............
I spent 36 hours in THE BOX this past weekend for THE event.

and EVEN with the choppyness on the BEST parts...... I HONESTLY think that Lou has gotten "TOO Big". If you go back to what his podcasts started OUT as.............and THEN go to today............ I would THINK that Lou has GOTTEN TOOO big....

WHEN did we substitue ACTUAL Disney info and history, into Weddings and things of that nature......

WHEN Lou is IN THE box on the LONG Live broadcasts he's GREAT..... but you get ONE Hour of Lou doing WHAT we fell in love with and then 3 hours of fluff?

Lou has Got to BIG for a purist like me............

But Once again that is JUST ME...............

Yeah, I miss the jam packed shows of the early days with tons of content just bursting out of each episode, but Lou has done 241 episodes (and counting) now and if the were all 3 hours long with nothing but news, trivia and history then he would've completely run out of content a long time ago. As big as WDW is, it's still just one place.

But as for Lou being too big? I'm not sure that has any merit whatsoever. Of all the people on this forum I haven't run across a single person who said that Lou tried to big-time them when they saw him in person, I really believe a large reason for why Lou is as successful as he is-is because he is a meek person. From day one he let us know he called us all his friends and he has never done anything to prove the contrary. While I do understand what you mean by "fluff" you have to understand that this show has turned more into a community than a simple travel podcast. The fluff you're talking about is that communal aspect of the show. People care about Lou and Beci and the entire WDW team, they want to hang out and be apart of their lives and their Disney experiences.

Admittedly I don't completely get it either, but I'm still new here, I don't have quite the connection to Lou and the rest of the gang. But I'm getting there. Some people may never "get it" and that's fine, you can still enjoy the episodes and the majority of the newscasts. No one's forcing you to tune in to a live event for 36 hours out of it's 40 hours if it doesn't interest you.

**Deveney** · 10-04-2011, 09:09 AM

Originally Posted by StewbotTalborg

Yeah, I miss the jam packed shows of the early days with tons of content just bursting out of each episode, but Lou has done 241 episodes (and counting) now and if the were all 3 hours long with nothing but news, trivia and history then he would've completely run out of content a long time ago. As big as WDW is, it's still just one place.

But as for Lou being too big? I'm not sure that has any merit whatsoever. Of all the people on this forum I haven't run across a single person who said that Lou tried to big-time them when they saw him in person, I really believe a large reason for why Lou is as successful as he is-is because he is a meek person. From day one he let us know he called us all his friends and he has never done anything to prove the contrary. While I do understand what you mean by "fluff" you have to understand that this show has turned more into a community than a simple travel podcast. The fluff you're talking about is that communal aspect of the show. People care about Lou and Beci and the entire WDW team, they want to hang out and be apart of their lives and their Disney experiences.

Admittedly I don't completely get it either, but I'm still new here, I don't have quite the connection to Lou and the rest of the gang. But I'm getting there. Some people may never "get it" and that's fine, you can still enjoy the episodes and the majority of the newscasts. No one's forcing you to tune in to a live event for 36 hours out of it's 40 hours if it doesn't interest you.

Actually i AGREE with the community aspect of it, and I spent 36 of 40 hours in the box because I LOVE Lou and Beci. I spent the ENTIRE time in the box during D23 because of the community experience. I guess what I meant by "Too big" is that.... It use to be Lou, Beci and The box, now there is an entourage.

I continue to come back BECAUSE Lou is OUR WDW information "guy". I guess I just wish that on the live broadcasts that I would get a little more of Lou, pointing out the cool things about WDW.
I actually understand the need for "fluff", i just hope that the fluff is proportionate with the cool stuff as well.

**zippitydoodah** · 10-04-2011, 09:10 AM

I'm the girl who got engaged on the WDW Radio Cruise, and I can honestly say that Lou was nothing but gracious. When my fiance and best friend asked him for help with the proposal he asked "are you SURE you want ME to be involved?" multiple times because he was so shocked anyone would want him to be part of a proposal. My fiance thought the best part of the cruise was just drinking and chatting with Lou in the bars every night and thought he was just such a great guy. Even though there were hundreds of us on the cruise, it was so easy to just hang out with him and talk. Obviously the proposal was a surprise to me, but I love Disney and my fiance and I both love trivia (My proposal happened during a WDW radio trivia contest) and Ive been listening to Lou's podcast for years now so it was perfect for me.

That's just my personal experience with meeting him for the first time and what a great guy I thought he was.

**Mo Noyz** · 10-04-2011, 10:52 AM

Originally Posted by tiggerguy

and that was my point, as you said there may be hard feelings.

Yeah, it's a fair point.

I guess I just find it intriguing that anything like that would happen amongst podcasters/WDW enthusiasts.

The stuff that happened at Laughing Place (which I'm not a member of, and frankly don't care for) was just dumb, IMO. Or better yet, silly.

In hindsight, starting this thread at all wasn't my finest decision either. I just can't imagine why there would be any kind of bad blood. Although, to be fair the host of the other podcast does kind of come across as a jerk at times.

**JohnO** · 10-04-2011, 11:22 AM

Originally Posted by Deveney

WHEN did we substitue ACTUAL Disney info and history, into Weddings and things of that nature......

The Wedding coverage was full of information. Where else can you find more information on the wedding planning and the actual experience but WDWRadio? There has to be a ton of people who are interested in a WDW wedding but dont know a heck of a lot about it. WDW Weddings is just one aspect of thousands of things that go on in WDW and Lou covered it. Why discredit it as pointless. Im sure a lot of people found it useful, whether it encouraged them to do it, or made them shy away from the idea.

Again, one of the things I love about WDWRadio is the tremendous bredth of topics, issues and events covered.

just my two cents...

**Mo Noyz** · 10-04-2011, 11:26 AM

Agreed.

Weddings at WDW are huge, and the amount of info concerning them is almost unfathomable.

Not a topic I was interested in having been with my wife for 24 years now, but definitely one of importance, IMO.

**supernova** · 10-04-2011, 11:36 AM

Originally Posted by Deveney

If i MAY be so BOLD to say OUTLOUD............
I spent 36 hours in THE BOX this past weekend for THE event.

Wow. I'm really sorry to hear that.

**StewbotTalborg** · 10-04-2011, 04:25 PM

Originally Posted by Deveney

I guess I just wish that on the live broadcasts that I would get a little more of Lou, pointing out the cool things about WDW.

I get that. I actually prefer the older episodes when the news was a weekly segment on the show instead of the newscast. I think I would like to see him keep the news apart of the show and use Wednesday as just a night for discussion.
Although as fast as Disney World news gets around these days he almost needs to host a live broadcast as soon as the news breaks instead of waiting a whole week. It's nice to hear his perspective about things but by the time he gets around to it the topics (Avatar comes to mind) have already been completely dissected.