If and when Disney goes to the XPass, the maintance will be the downfall. You just can't have big people eater attractions being down for extended periods and XPass succeed. The Laughing Place in Splash Mountain is still broken and a let down as you go through that section.
If you listened to the Presidents speech on Main Street earlier this year it is the foreign tourist that is the target market for Disney. So much that the Government is attempting to change the Visa process to bring in the foreign tourists from Brazil, India and China as many from those countries that do travel have an abundance of money to spend in Disney World. Disney and the Government want to capitalize on that fraction of vacationers. While the majority of the people from those countries are not wealthy, there is a chunk that is and they are willing to drop big dollars while visiting Disney World.
I can't afford a brand new Ferrari. But, you don't hear me whining like a little baby about it.
Premium products go for premium prices. If you can't afford it, either find an alternative, or start putting some money away to save up so that you can.
Disney is no different than any other company under the sun. They charge what the market will bear.
And yet the resort is at capacity pretty much daily.Quote:
Originally Posted by HG
I can't afford to go to NYC every month for the weekend. No, I'm stuck with St. Louis!!
But, you know what? I figured out a solution. Don't try to go every month!
Gee whiz, you know if we applied that to going to Disney annually...
Good lord, in the past 12 years we've been there twice. '06 and '10. I guess I should be raising the roof over the injustice!!
Yeah you got me started now! I was fine until you ran your mouth about me whining so you want whining;buddy I can give it to you!You should have kept your nose out of us poor people's business.Alas,there will always be people like you!Good Day!
Yet, this same logic doesn't apply to you, is that correct?Quote:
Originally Posted by parkhopperdad
If you're unhappy with the money Disney is charging you, then don't patronize their resort. Seems pretty simple.
Then what are you getting so worked up about? You don't think they offer a premium product (though, I'd like to know which theme park company you feel does it better), and you think they charge too much.Quote:
Disney is by far NOT a premium product!
Yet, you still want to attend their resort. Your argument is making no sense.
Who is "people like you"? People that attended the park annually from 2000-2008? I certainly don't fit into that category since during that span I visited...once.Quote:
It's people like you that WILL save your last dollar just to to stick it in their greedy pockets down there and all of you "don't care how much it costs people", will continue to go and spend the high dollars ,which will prevent them from EVER lowering the prices!
I guarantee you that in that span you spent thousands of more dollars there than I did. Tens of thousands.
I know, but it's one of the things us rich folks do for fun! :DQuote:
You should have kept your nose out of us poor people's business.
Look, I'm sorry you lost your job. The economy is in the tank, and has been for several years. I was out of work twice between 2009 and 2011. I know how it feels. It stinks, and I feel for you trying to raise a family in our current economic environment. But your rage is really off target here.
Either way, I shouldn't have tweaked you like I did, and for that I sincerely apologize. I wish you nothing but the best, and hope things turn around for you.
I actually do not mind your rebuttal, it's all true.Yeah we did spend a lot of money those 10 yrs,but we made memories and had quality family time together for a whole week each time with nothing to worry about but having fun altogether.My youngest was only 4 yrs old when we started going; so both of my girls have sorta been raised up at WDW, once a year!
I have never been "well off",and I certainly am not now; based on economic and financial wealth.But even what I did have,it was nice to be able to go and do 2 or 3 vacations a year and then when the bottom fell out it hurt,BAD!
But anyway; I consider us to be all good. I believe in your last few comments, you really realize my frustrations and why I feel this way.I have always said in these forums that I am harmless, but somehow I had to let it out again,and I guess today was the day.
At least being adults here,I think everyone can feel each other's pain in our comments when one of us is hurting and I feel you felt my pain.It's silly I know, but we also are all human beings and God gave us all emotions to feel pain, sadness and happiness, so thanks Mo Noyz.
Been there, done that, feel your pain, and wouldn't wish any of it on my worst enemy, PHD.
I also made a LOT more then than I do now. Don't know that we ever did three vacations a year, but we always managed to do at least two. Could only do that now if we wanted to rack up a bunch of credit card debt.
But, like I always have to remind myself, try to keep it all in perspective. Memories were made, and will likely always remain (even if embellished a bit :) ).
A happy and healthy family means a lot more to me now than a trip to WDW.
No worries, though. One will eventually follow the other. It's the law (of averages)! :)
can i just interject here for a moment... i agree and understand where we are all coming form in this point... i am a teacher and all i hear is how we are all paid too much... unfortunately for me i do not seem to fall into that aspect as i am at the bottom of the ladder and must work two jobs just to make a little and stay a bit ahead... i have been to Disney for a weeks vacation the last 3 years... by no means do i call myself well off... what i can tell you is this... i have found ways to cut costs while still doing without sacrificing what i like to do... between my girlfriend and i we spent a week in WDW in 2010... we spent roughly $2200 for the two of us... we stayed at VWL and flew from NY... we had a dining plan and 7 day hoppers... last year i spent about $200 less and stayed at OKW... that time i even rented a car... i think what it comes down for me is planning... now obviously it is cheaper for me because i do not have children.... but my parents are going down for 10 days this christmas... when they did it themselves in 2008 or 09 they spent over $5000 staying at Poly... with what i have been able to do is get them into VWL for $2300... with resort DP and tickets... again I'm not trying to start a fight but trust me when i tell you this... dealing with Disney on their site is completely not worth it... if you know what to do and how to do it and you can possibly be a bit flexible... it is worth it in $$$ saved...
One theme does carry through. costs rise but services seem to be falling behind. Profits are up for the Theme Parks division and Disney overall. It is fair to wonder why the profit increase doesn't translate to greater maintenance investment in the parks. I recallr eading that when a marketing executive took over as the chief for the Disneyland park, profits went up at the cost of "deferred maintenace" to the park itself.
Probably because they're spending it all on capacity matters. Revamped DCA, Fantasyland expansion, etc...
Just ain't no tellin'!