Castle Trees

BamaJenn · 01-17-2008, 04:22 PM

Anyone know why they ever got rid of these? I had completely forgotten there were even trees there until I saw this. I was trying to think if there was some reason... like something else was put in their place... but I think all that's there now is grass (?).

Tinker Bell · 01-17-2008, 04:43 PM

I so miss those trees. What I had heard is that for one they had gotten too big for their planters and that they needed to clear out the front of the castle for all the new shows and celebrations that have been taking place last couple of years. I find it looks so bare now without the trees. Sadness.

disneycrazy1956 · 01-17-2008, 06:36 PM

We were on a keys to the kingdom tour in March of 2004 and I asked the cast member, why they took out the trees. He told us they were causing a problem down below because the roots were starting to invade the utilidor. I think they were also starting to block the view of the castle from main street.

nicki12 · 01-17-2008, 06:42 PM

I never they were trees there, when did they remove them?

GoofyOnDWT · 01-17-2008, 07:19 PM

I agree with the previous post about having something to do with the various shows/celebrations. Based on the firework displays associated with Wishes, I can see a desire to have the trees removed so the guests have a clear view when watching from the Main Street area.

DopeyDancer87 · 01-17-2008, 09:32 PM

I miss them too, but I heard that they got rid of them because they obstructed the view of the castle and they limited the space the view the shows that go on in front of the castle.

pigletfan · 01-18-2008, 07:26 AM

I remember the trees too. It still looks kinda bare without them. But I do like the Walt and Mickey statue!

DopeyDancer87 · 01-18-2008, 01:29 PM

Yes, Partner is one of those classic pieces that I ALWAYS associate with the world. It's just a great reminder of where it all started.

lilo88 · 01-18-2008, 01:39 PM

OMG!! I totally just noticed that!!

When I first went in 1997 they were there and then I don't remember them anymore!! I just looked at one of my scrapbooking photos and there where there. Wow, I did not even think about that!! Maybe they weren't all there but some trees where there in 97'. Thanks for pointing that out to us Jenn

Caribbean Lady · 01-19-2008, 11:21 PM

Those look nice. I think they ease the transition from Main Street to the Castle, and they framed it very nicely

BamaJenn · 01-22-2008, 10:30 AM

Tiff I'm so right there with you. I was looking at these pictures and when I came across this one I did a double take. Like "wow, there WERE trees there, that's right".

TPR Erik · 01-30-2008, 01:45 AM

If I remember correctly, those trees were also filled with white lights that quickly blinked while at night.

BamaJenn · 01-30-2008, 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TPR Erik

If I remember correctly, those trees were also filled with white lights that quickly blinked while at night.

You may be right. I seem to have some recollection of that. Unfortunately the only pics I have are during the day.

HauntedGabe · 01-30-2008, 02:00 PM

Wow! Flashback! Now I miss them. I recall sitting under them and having ice cream in the shade. Disney transplants green stuff all the time, I wonder why they didn't replace the tree's with smaller versions. It was such a nice transition from all that concrete. Can't believe I didn't notice.

BAMAJENN You might want to post this picture on Post a Picture a Day, I am sure everyone on that hot thread would love to see this photo! Thanks for sharing.

Note: Those are some short, shorts on those ladies.

bigbrian-nc.com · 01-31-2008, 08:19 AM

Here are some photos that show the the hub before and after the renovations, this is adapted from a thread on another board where this subject came up in referance to how much (or rather how little) seatin there is in the hub nowadays so I'll include a bit of the text about that issue here:

... as to the seating issue since the seats before were built into the planters all the way around the planters AND the planting ares were bigger , then obviously even if you put benches ALL the way around the planter there's going to be less seating now because the perimiter is smaller. So you can still get a seat you just have to stake it out sooner, and having MORE standing space (and less obstructed views) in front of the castle increases viewing space ALL DAY LONG, for stage shows, parades, and fireworks, so it really does seem like it was probably a good idea.

before the renovations (overview from upper deck of omnibus):

note that the path to the center is so narrow that no benches are put on the path to the center of the hub, there are benches built into the center of the hub around the statue of Walt, these still exist, here's another view of those (this picture includes my first wife, so It's not one I reference very often):

I also have a photo that show sometimes they DID actually put benches along that narrow path (with my current wife from our honeymoon in 2002):

there are also benches built into the exterior and interior circles of the planters around the hub, those are the ones that have gone away, here's a view that shows those older built-in benches :

Here are some pictures of the hub AFTER the renovations the benches built into the interior and exterior of the planters surrounding the hub are gone (except at the inner circle aroung the partnes statue), though the other type of benches are seemingly quite abundant in these photos:

01-17-2008, 04:22 PM	#1
BamaJenn Disney Know-it-All Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: The Idea Bag Posts: 8,242	Castle Trees Anyone know why they ever got rid of these? I had completely forgotten there were even trees there until I saw this. I was trying to think if there was some reason... like something else was put in their place... but I think all that's there now is grass (?). __________________ Sometimes all you need is a reminder that out there lies a better place... a better world... a Walt Disney World. Visited In: 1983, 1988, 1989 x2, 1991, 1992, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006 (passholder), 2007 (x2), 2008, 2009 (x2), 2010, 2011 (x2) “Detail is there to make you believe in the reality of the story you’re immersed in.” - Joe Rohde Visit the World You Used to Know - Extinct Disney Avatar Image Used with Permission from °O°Joe

01-17-2008, 04:43 PM	#2
Tinker Bell DisneyWorldTrivia.com Lifetime Pass Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 25,990	I so miss those trees. What I had heard is that for one they had gotten too big for their planters and that they needed to clear out the front of the castle for all the new shows and celebrations that have been taking place last couple of years. I find it looks so bare now without the trees. Sadness. __________________

01-17-2008, 06:36 PM	#3
disneycrazy1956 Fastpass Holder Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Bear, Delaware Posts: 364	Castle Trees We were on a keys to the kingdom tour in March of 2004 and I asked the cast member, why they took out the trees. He told us they were causing a problem down below because the roots were starting to invade the utilidor. I think they were also starting to block the view of the castle from main street. __________________ "I just want it to look like nothing else in the world... and it should be surrounded by a train" -Walt Disney. 90 CB, 92 DI, 94 CR, 97 FWC, 99 CS, 00 CS, 02 CS, 04 POR, 05 POR, 07 POR, 08 POFQ, 09 POR, 11 POR.

01-17-2008, 06:42 PM	#4
nicki12 Disney Fan and Twilighter Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Norfolk, Va Posts: 2,634	I never they were trees there, when did they remove them? __________________ Nicole a.k.a. nicki12 ~ a Navy daughter Huge fan of the Twilight Series! "All your dreams can come true, if you have the courage to pursue them" - Walt Disney

01-17-2008, 09:32 PM	#6
DopeyDancer87 Disney Obsessed Since 1988 :-) Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New York (Not close enough to the Magic) Posts: 1,545	I miss them too, but I heard that they got rid of them because they obstructed the view of the castle and they limited the space the view the shows that go on in front of the castle. __________________ "It's kind of fun to do the impossible." - Walt Disney "Adults are just grown up kids, anyway." -Walt Disney (((Por favor mantangense alejado de las puertas ))) *My Visits* 1988 - Polynesian Resort1991- Port Orleans1992- Port Orleans**1994- Wilderness Lodge1995- Caribbean Beach**1997- Boardwalk1998- Old Key West1999- All- Star Movies2000- Wilderness Lodge2000- Caribbean Beach2001- Wilderness Lodge2001- Port Orleans Riverside2001- Coronado Springs2002 - Boardwalk2003 - Contemporary2003 - Caribbean Beach2003 - All Star Sports & Music2004- Grand Californian (DL)2004 - Boardwalk2005 - Boardwalk2006 - Wilderness Lodge2007- Boardwalk2007 - Wilderness Lodge2008 - Saratoga Springs2009 - Off Site**2011 - Bay Lake Tower/Boardwalk VillasFebruary, 2012 - POFQ**

01-17-2008, 07:19 PM	#5
GoofyOnDWT A-Ticket holder Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Mobile, AL Posts: 7	I agree with the previous post about having something to do with the various shows/celebrations. Based on the firework displays associated with Wishes, I can see a desire to have the trees removed so the guests have a clear view when watching from the Main Street area.

01-18-2008, 07:26 AM	#7
pigletfan D-Ticket Holder Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Florida Posts: 265	I remember the trees too. It still looks kinda bare without them. But I do like the Walt and Mickey statue!

01-18-2008, 01:29 PM	#8
DopeyDancer87 Disney Obsessed Since 1988 :-) Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New York (Not close enough to the Magic) Posts: 1,545	Yes, Partner is one of those classic pieces that I ALWAYS associate with the world. It's just a great reminder of where it all started. __________________ "It's kind of fun to do the impossible." - Walt Disney "Adults are just grown up kids, anyway." -Walt Disney (((Por favor mantangense alejado de las puertas ))) *My Visits* 1988 - Polynesian Resort1991- Port Orleans1992- Port Orleans**1994- Wilderness Lodge1995- Caribbean Beach**1997- Boardwalk1998- Old Key West1999- All- Star Movies2000- Wilderness Lodge2000- Caribbean Beach2001- Wilderness Lodge2001- Port Orleans Riverside2001- Coronado Springs2002 - Boardwalk2003 - Contemporary2003 - Caribbean Beach2003 - All Star Sports & Music2004- Grand Californian (DL)2004 - Boardwalk2005 - Boardwalk2006 - Wilderness Lodge2007- Boardwalk2007 - Wilderness Lodge2008 - Saratoga Springs2009 - Off Site**2011 - Bay Lake Tower/Boardwalk VillasFebruary, 2012 - POFQ**

01-18-2008, 01:39 PM	#9
lilo88 DisneyWorldTrivia.com Lifetime Pass Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Eureka, MO Posts: 13,939	OMG!! I totally just noticed that!! When I first went in 1997 they were there and then I don't remember them anymore!! I just looked at one of my scrapbooking photos and there where there. Wow, I did not even think about that!! Maybe they weren't all there but some trees where there in 97'. Thanks for pointing that out to us Jenn __________________ Tiffany~ºoº ~ D23 member Sufferer of Disney Vacation Depression 97'~French Quarter, 99'~CBR, 01'~Movies, 03'~Music/PORriverside/DCL, 05'~POP, 06'~Movies, 08'~Movies, 09'~Disneyland/ Embassy Suites Irvine/ 10'~Music Last edited by lilo88; 01-18-2008 at 01:41 PM.. Reason: forgot to say something

01-19-2008, 11:21 PM	#10
Caribbean Lady Por favor mantangense alejado de las puertas Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: wishing I was in Walt Disney World... Posts: 624	Those look nice. I think they ease the transition from Main Street to the Castle, and they framed it very nicely __________________ I wish they sold these at grocery stores... I miss riding BTMRR It's official... I'm too far away from the Magic When you wish upon a star...

01-22-2008, 10:30 AM	#11
BamaJenn Disney Know-it-All Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: The Idea Bag Posts: 8,242	Tiff I'm so right there with you. I was looking at these pictures and when I came across this one I did a double take. Like "wow, there WERE trees there, that's right". __________________ Sometimes all you need is a reminder that out there lies a better place... a better world... a Walt Disney World. Visited In: 1983, 1988, 1989 x2, 1991, 1992, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006 (passholder), 2007 (x2), 2008, 2009 (x2), 2010, 2011 (x2) “Detail is there to make you believe in the reality of the story you’re immersed in.” - Joe Rohde Visit the World You Used to Know - Extinct Disney Avatar Image Used with Permission from °O°Joe

01-30-2008, 01:45 AM	#12
TPR Erik A-Ticket holder Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 1	If I remember correctly, those trees were also filled with white lights that quickly blinked while at night.

01-30-2008, 02:00 PM	#14
HauntedGabe Where'd she go??? Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Hamlet, IL Posts: 17,913	Wow! Flashback! Now I miss them. I recall sitting under them and having ice cream in the shade. Disney transplants green stuff all the time, I wonder why they didn't replace the tree's with smaller versions. It was such a nice transition from all that concrete. Can't believe I didn't notice. BAMAJENN You might want to post this picture on Post a Picture a Day, I am sure everyone on that hot thread would love to see this photo! Thanks for sharing. Note: Those are some short, shorts on those ladies. Last edited by HauntedGabe; 01-30-2008 at 02:03 PM.. Reason: Note

01-31-2008, 08:19 AM	#15
bigbrian-nc.com WDW: A History In Postcards Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Charlotte NC Posts: 1,543	Here are some photos that show the the hub before and after the renovations, this is adapted from a thread on another board where this subject came up in referance to how much (or rather how little) seatin there is in the hub nowadays so I'll include a bit of the text about that issue here: ... as to the seating issue since the seats before were built into the planters all the way around the planters AND the planting ares were bigger , then obviously even if you put benches ALL the way around the planter there's going to be less seating now because the perimiter is smaller. So you can still get a seat you just have to stake it out sooner, and having MORE standing space (and less obstructed views) in front of the castle increases viewing space ALL DAY LONG, for stage shows, parades, and fireworks, so it really does seem like it was probably a good idea. before the renovations (overview from upper deck of omnibus): note that the path to the center is so narrow that no benches are put on the path to the center of the hub, there are benches built into the center of the hub around the statue of Walt, these still exist, here's another view of those (this picture includes my first wife, so It's not one I reference very often): I also have a photo that show sometimes they DID actually put benches along that narrow path (with my current wife from our honeymoon in 2002): there are also benches built into the exterior and interior circles of the planters around the hub, those are the ones that have gone away, here's a view that shows those older built-in benches : Here are some pictures of the hub AFTER the renovations the benches built into the interior and exterior of the planters surrounding the hub are gone (except at the inner circle aroung the partnes statue), though the other type of benches are seemingly quite abundant in these photos: __________________ Brian Martsolf martsolf@mindspring.com Walt Disney World: A History in Postcards http://www.bigbrian-nc.com/pctoc.htm

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