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    Strange events in Disney Parks this week

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    Strange events in Disney: Explosives, a loaded gun and drunk men steal golf cart (Photos)





    Disney parks have been making headlines all week, but it wasn't news of typical Disney magic.Earlier this week at Disneyland in California, a small explosive was found in a trash can. A cast member was later arrested on suspicion of possessing an explosive device. Walt Disney World in Florida is also having their fair share of incidents this week as well.

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    On May 29, 2013, a guest at Disney's Animal Kingdom park found a loaded gun on the seat of the popular Dinosaur rideper a report by Doctor Disney. The gun was turned into a cast member who contacted park security and the Orange County Sheriff's Office.



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    The owner, Angelo Lista told authorities the gun fell out of his back pocket while on the bumpy ride and that he did not know that weapons were not allowed in the park. Lista was asked to leave the park for the day and was escorted out by deputies.
    Disney's website clearly states that all weapons are prohibited on property. Official's also called this incident "rare" because it's common knowledge that they are not permitted.
    In a separate incident, two men were arrested and charged with grand theft at Disney's Boardwalk Inn. The Drinks Business reports that tourists Donald Rossi, 33 and Michael Kulesza, 38, stole a golf cart and and went on a drunken joy-ride forcing other Disney visitors to jump out of the way.
    According to a police report the two men were laughing, yelling and shouting as they drove past the resorts shops and restaurants. The driver, Donald Rossi was holding one beer and the passenger had two beers. It is also reported that the two men apologized profusely all the way to jail.
    Fortunately no one hurt in any of the three incidents caused by the carelessness of these four individuals.
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    Re: Strange events in Disney Parks this week

    Man sneaks into park with firearm and leaves said firearm...Disney employee sets of dry ice bomb...Now I'm even more offended that an overzealous member of the WDW security force stopped me at the MK gate for carrying my pocket knife. He told me my weapon was dangerous and they were trying to make a safe environment for kids.

    Apparently those other two goofs didn't get the same lecture.
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    Re: Strange events in Disney Parks this week

    Quote Originally Posted by ohiodisneydad View Post
    Man sneaks into park with firearm and leaves said firearm...Disney employee sets of dry ice bomb...Now I'm even more offended that an overzealous member of the WDW security force stopped me at the MK gate for carrying my pocket knife. He told me my weapon was dangerous and they were trying to make a safe environment for kids.

    Apparently those other two goofs didn't get the same lecture.
    I talked to my DS last night and he filled me in a bit. Gun guy was able to continue on the next day in the parks, he respectfully spoke about the lack of info posted in plain sight of entering visitors. It is clear on the website if you go looking for it. Seems like both sides on that one admitted some fault and look for better signage on property forthcoming.

    The stolen golf cart will be an interesting and even before that when plea bargaining begins. Disney tends to over-serve their guests, nickname even for F&W being drunk fest. Add in when you leave a vehicle you are to turn it off and take the keys. If that was done and not left unattended with keys guests couldn't go joy riding. Doubt grand theft will stick but ya ever know. Wonder in turn what will happen to the CM.

    He didn't know much about the DL ice bottle. Just got the idea that exploding bottle and evacuating Toon wasn't his goal. Gotta wonder about folks.

    How did the security guard even see your pocket knife, how did that end?
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    Re: Strange events in Disney Parks this week

    Quote Originally Posted by ohiodisneydad View Post
    Man sneaks into park with firearm and leaves said firearm...Disney employee sets of dry ice bomb...Now I'm even more offended that an overzealous member of the WDW security force stopped me at the MK gate for carrying my pocket knife. He told me my weapon was dangerous and they were trying to make a safe environment for kids.

    Apparently those other two goofs didn't get the same lecture.
    Should have dropped it down in your pocket.

    Sounds like you are like me and just in the habit of grabbing it before you head out the door without even thinking about it.

    Last time we were there I did just that our first day in the parks. Didn't hit me until we were walking up to the security area. I unclipped it and let it fall into my pocket. I wasn't up for the long bus ride back to the Hilton at DD, nor was I giving up my favorite knife (Spyderco Manix 2).

    Made it through just fine. Made sure I put the knife in the bottom of our suitcase when we took our midday break...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mo Noyz View Post
    Should have dropped it down in your pocket.

    Sounds like you are like me and just in the habit of grabbing it before you head out the door without even thinking about it.

    Last time we were there I did just that our first day in the parks. Didn't hit me until we were walking up to the security area. I unclipped it and let it fall into my pocket. I wasn't up for the long bus ride back to the Hilton at DD, nor was I giving up my favorite knife (Spyderco Manix 2).

    Made it through just fine. Made sure I put the knife in the bottom of our suitcase when we took our midday break...
    Never entered my mind that I was carrying it. I carry a Smith and Wesson Cuttin' Horse. It's not expensive but it's my favorite. It stays clipped to my pocket. I carry it everywhere, along with a few other items I use in my trade but I left all those locked in the room safe.
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    Re: Strange events in Disney Parks this week

    Even Disney's security issues have some innocense to them. The gun issue did sound like an honest mistake except that the owner of the gun is expected to review the regulations of the locations he attends with a concealed weapon. Next, I dont know the full details of the dry ice deal but if there was an arrest then he surely did something that Disney didnt agree with. Possibly had negative intentions. CM's are normal people too. Finally, the drunks and the golf cart. What do you expect in an resort where alcohol is served?! The CM's in that one probably didnt follow protocol. But, I'd love to hear the stats of how often Disney has to give a drunk the heave ho. I'm sure it's a daily if not hourly occasion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ohiodisneydad View Post
    Never entered my mind that I was carrying it. I carry a Smith and Wesson Cuttin' Horse. It's not expensive but it's my favorite. It stays clipped to my pocket. I carry it everywhere, along with a few other items I use in my trade but I left all those locked in the room safe.
    We once walked from our hotel north of the river down to the Sears Tower in Chicago. Pretty good haul, but enjoyable. Right as we were getting ready to get in the security line I reached down and realized I had my Spyderco Tenacious on board.

    We were about halfway back to the hotel before the wife started speaking to me again...

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    Re: Strange events in Disney Parks this week

    Quote Originally Posted by 4Shoemakers View Post
    Even Disney's security issues have some innocense to them. The gun issue did sound like an honest mistake except that the owner of the gun is expected to review the regulations of the locations he attends with a concealed weapon. Next, I dont know the full details of the dry ice deal but if there was an arrest then he surely did something that Disney didnt agree with. Possibly had negative intentions. CM's are normal people too. Finally, the drunks and the golf cart. What do you expect in an resort where alcohol is served?! The CM's in that one probably didnt follow protocol. But, I'd love to hear the stats of how often Disney has to give a drunk the heave ho. I'm sure it's a daily if not hourly occasion.
    Anytime alcohol is served there's going to be an issue. Combine that with the thought process that you are on vacation and are paying a lot of money to be where you are, therefore you are entitled to act like a jerk, and it can cause problems. Apparently it was Norway Constitution Celebration day at Epcot on our last trip and we walked right into a Drinking Around the World celebration. Lot's of folks getting drunk and annoying me. I did my best to avoid them.

    I think the firearm issue highlights a bigger concern. If this guy who has a valid CCW permit carried his gun into the park, how many others who aren't certified are carrying into the park? There's no simple solution to this. Disney does a fine job of keeping their guests safe. The only other option is to install metal detectors and xray machines or start patting folks down
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    Re: Strange events in Disney Parks this week

    Which we know they will go out of their way to avoid, but I still think we may be getting closer and closer to that day.

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    I agree.
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    From reports by the Sheriff Department, CM intentions may have been ignorant but not malicious. They still haven't released all the details, don't know why the delay.

    The man with the gun well, I've never seen those signs but then I would think common sense would dictate. At the minimum he should've known better not take it on a ride, but I think it was a fair deal that he was asked to leave the parks for the day but allowed to return, I'm sure not heavy. And there's nothing wrong with supporting or exercising the 2nd amendment, until you enter an establishment where its prohibited. Those who mock 2nd amendment purveyors should consider the 1st amendment that gives them the right of speaking dissent. That's why the press is up in arms the past week because of first amendment infringements. On almost every website, from Facebook to WDWRadio, there is a terms of service which in essence means you don't have freedom of speech on a proprietary network if they choose to restrict it.

    In a recent visit to MK their Security was conducting an impromptu search of guests WITHOUT BAGS.

    Once in a while later in the night at MK you get spill over from EPCOT and some of the guests have been drinking and tend to be belligerent to CMs or impatient in the lines. Perhaps they should require a breathalyzer test when they suspect A DWI (at Disney World Intoxicated). BTW, that was an attempt at being humorous, like it or not.

    I wouldn't like being patted down, but would roll with it, but would draw the line to any pat down of children.

    Quote Originally Posted by ohiodisneydad View Post
    Anytime alcohol is served there's going to be an issue. Combine that with the thought process that you are on vacation and are paying a lot of money to be where you are, therefore you are entitled to act like a jerk, and it can cause problems. Apparently it was Norway Constitution Celebration day at Epcot on our last trip and we walked right into a Drinking Around the World celebration. Lot's of folks getting drunk and annoying me. I did my best to avoid them.

    I think the firearm issue highlights a bigger concern. If this guy who has a valid CCW permit carried his gun into the park, how many others who aren't certified are carrying into the park? There's no simple solution to this. Disney does a fine job of keeping their guests safe. The only other option is to install metal detectors and xray machines or start patting folks down
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    There is nothing wrong with exercising your Second Amendment rights. The problem arises when you knowingly break the rules of an establishment you enter. Which you clearly agree with.

    As for mocking, I don't think anything of that nature has been expressed. Our Bill of Rights grants us unprecendented freedom, but there are also limitations and regulations in place for the overall safety of our society.

    You can't carry a gun on a ride any more than you can shout "FIRE!!!!" in Muppetvision 3D.

    That seems fair for everyone involved, IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by i-neighborhood View Post
    In a recent visit to MK their Security was conducting an impromptu search of guests WITHOUT BAGS.

    I wouldn't like being patted down, but would roll with it, but would draw the line to any pat down of children.
    I understand private property laws, etc so if you want me to lift my shirt up so you can see my the waistband of my shorts. OK, I'll give. But patting me down, huh uh. Unless you are a commissioned law enforcement officer who believes that I or someone in my party committed a crime (probable cause) OR me or someone in my party has a weapon on them and are about to commit a crime and you want to perform a pat down (Terry v. OH) then keep your hands off us.

    I don't look down on anyone because of the job they do. I appreciate the work Disney Security puts into keeping everyone safe. But they aren't searching me. This ain't the TSA.
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    I agree, I appreciate the job they do and they are limited which the recent incident examples.

    The TSA is out of control in my opinion.

    Quote Originally Posted by ohiodisneydad View Post
    I understand private property laws, etc so if you want me to lift my shirt up so you can see my the waistband of my shorts. OK, I'll give. But patting me down, huh uh. Unless you are a commissioned law enforcement officer who believes that I or someone in my party committed a crime (probable cause) OR me or someone in my party has a weapon on them and are about to commit a crime and you want to perform a pat down (Terry v. OH) then keep your hands off us.

    I don't look down on anyone because of the job they do. I appreciate the work Disney Security puts into keeping everyone safe. But they aren't searching me. This ain't the TSA.

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    Re: Strange events in Disney Parks this week

    Even the TSA has had to roll back some of their tactics. Discontinuing the use of body scanners being the biggest.

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